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#2354

Honest question, why do those of you that dislike pop music dislike it; the music or the lyrics? I’m not a fan of pop music myself, but I think it’s mainly the meaningless lyrics most of the mainstream songs have, which Heavy doesn’t have.

A lot of people somewhat enjoyed their improvised Hybrid Theory-esque version, but they didn’t change the lyrics at all, so I’m leaning towards most people dislike the sound of the music more (plus the constant “nu-metal” remixes lean towards that, too).

Also, this probably sounds like I’m insane, but technically Hybrid Theory was their most “pop” album, considering its popularity and the atmosphere of music st the time

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#2355

Times (and, basically, everything) change but people don’t?) I don’t know, I’m not a fan of Katy Perry, but I like to listen to OneRepublic) Most LP fans don’t like the new song because of a sound, I think you’re right.

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#2356

I guess it’s tough for people who dislike the song to look at the subtler aspects of it. Most of them must have formed a belief system that lp produces a certain style of music mainly Nu Metal, and that’s what’s lp to them. As they get attached to that genre, they can do nothing but to expect the same kind of record everytime. And we know that the last thing we should do with lp is expect because of their dynamic nature.
It couldn’t have been merely to gain popularity like many think as you have mentioned about hybrid theory having one of the most popular styles at that time.
To sum it up, I think it’s just the shock (due to expectations of the sound) that has caused many to dislike it.

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#2357

I believe that most people sticks to their opinions of the band making another hybrid theory/meteora as they put the band on the planet, I mean hybrid theory is the best selling debut album of the 21st century and still holds it to this day.

People also want the band to go back to their roots as that is what made the band and their sound. You hear songs like ‘in the end’ and ‘faint’ and you instantly know it’s them. However, ‘heavy’ makes you think that it is done by someone else. (I like the song by the way).

#2358

so can people not tell Chaz was joking when he. Said “here’s your HT so stfu” like Jesus on YouTube they are getting flamed for disrespecting the fans! I mean look at every post and look at their video they love those fans , all fans, and proclaim it all the time… people just need to chill im he wasn’t saying that to balantly disrespect anybody I thought he was joking honestly and if he wasn’t I still thought it was kinda funny but yea people just need to chill and breathe !

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#2359

Indeed: Pop is basically just populair music and could be any music genre. If people’d be able to look passed the stereotypes, there are a lot of very good Pop songs out there with deeper meaning. Michael Jackson had some great songs with strong meaningful lyrics such as Black Or White.

I don’t dislike pop music in general. There’s just something about Heavy that makes me cringe. Too repetitive for a short pop song, which actually makes it annoyingly catchy and I just… No. Sorry.

#2360

I understand it’s frustrating for them to have people ask them to make another HT again or go back to their “old” sound. Fans know they joke a lot so what they did and said in the stream was obviously them fooling around with us, some fans just don’t see it and take it the wrong way.

As for the song itself - and the album - I’m super excited for the lyrics since they’re gonna be pretty personal from what they say. It’s serious stuff. Music wise, it just sounds stupid to me (but not as bad as Recharged)… if Kiiara wasn’t on it, I think I’d like it, I’m just not into female vocalists in general.

Overall, I appreciate their effort in trying new things and taking risks and I truly admire them for having the guts to put music that they love out in the world and not care about what people might say. In the end though, it can turn out to be bad, like Heavy.

EDIT: No new guitars for this cycle. Interesting!

#2361

Personally the “pop” on te radio is just too airheaded
I mean the music itself may be catchy for its rhythm but the lyrics can just be some of the stupidest hooks ever and people eat it up for one reason or another
I hate most the radio music out there which is why I listened to country and island for a while too because lyrically it’s at least a bit more developed but always end up listening to the old music from guys like lp

I do like heavy, I like the lyrics and how they apply to anyone and I love the emotion with which Chester sings certain parts with like a break in his voice but that’s the difference to me. They wrote it and did it to experiment with the style but they’re doing it right they aren’t selling out like some other people out there (lmfao comes to mind) and it’s made to expand and branch out of what they know they can do

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#2362

This is actually pretty dope! :stuck_out_tongue:

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#2363

I usually listen to pop music because the radio in my workplace can’t seem to find the rock station, so when I’m too lazy to grab my phone and turn on Spotify, that’s what I listen to. I’m not terribly bothered by it, though I can’t say I’m delighted to listen to Bieber’s 3 singles in a row. What I think is, although “Heavy” has an eletronic pop beat, it didn’t remind me of the music I listen to in pop stations because of the lyrics; no pun intended, but it’s just too heavy for a pop song, that is usually about relationships, going out and having fun, etc. Maybe what they wanted to with this song was to bring up these feelings, this “gloomy” atmosphere, with a beat that is used to talk about lighter things…

(Eh but perhaps I’m reading too much into it. lol)

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#2364

I think I’ve said this a number of times scattered through numerous threads in the forum, but I think Mike himself said it best on A Thousand Suns;

[quote]Once you got a theory of how the thing works
Everybody wants the next thing to be just like the first
And I’m not a robot, I’m not a monkey
I will not dance even if the beat’s funky[/quote]

They don’t owe anything to the butt-hurt fans looking for a return to Hybrid Theory. Actually, do people even remember why they called themselves ‘Hybrid Theory’ in the first place?

Hybrid Theory was the best representation for what the band was doing at the time, and what they’re still doing now. There are six guys in the band that each have a wide variety of influences from genres all across the board. That includes (but not limited to) rock, hip-hop, pop, rap, electronica, and dance. Sometimes you’re going to get a song like Guilty All The Same, or Wretches and Kings, and other times you’re going to get a song like Shadow Of The Day, or even a song with Steve Aoki.

By that logic, why should they want to stay in the same box their entire career? Music is about evolution, and part of that evolution for me was opening up my music tastes and over time, having an appreciation for so much more than just “rock music.”

Still haven’t heard ‘Heavy’ but there’s a little under three months to go…

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#2365

I don’t know…
Mike said that ‘Heavy’ was chosen as the first single as it is the core sound of the album. I don’t really like the song, so, I am scared. Don’t get me wrong, I love LP with all of my heart. Heck, I irritate my classmates who hate LP a lot. It ks just that they are stepping into a genre which I can never handle, Pop. So, I have to admit it, I am scared. But, I can’t judge a book by its cover right?

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#2366

My leg hurts

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#2367

You know at first I enjoyed every lp song thinking everything was good… but later as I got to know more about genres, it was not till recently that I began to realise how different each song is from the other with respect to each album.

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#2368

Why don’t you just listen to the song?

#2369

Just like me :grinning: When I first ever started listening to LP , it was the first time I was taking music seriously ,before that I never understood music. LP is the reason I got into music.I remember then I wasn’t able to understand what the heck is genres. But recently as I got more into other music other than LP , I understood how different LP’s every song is.

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#2370

What do you mean by you have not heard ‘heavy’ yet?why you are not listening to it?

#2371

he waits for the album, as he mentioned already several times! People with reading abilities are clear in advantage inhere!

:joy:

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#2372

I’m going to address what I think are the most important things being discussed right now…

So, pop music is not all bad. At least in my opinion, some of it stands up pretty well. I believe Michael Jackson was mentioned earlier, but I believe even some modern pop artists are pretty good. To answer another question, it’s not the lyrics or the instrumentation that turns me off by itself (unless either one is insufferably terrible), however the instrumentation is way more likely to turn me off. There’s also the melody that I take into account, the singer’s voice, and the overall portrayal of the emotional content within the lyrics. I judge pop music like I judge all music - as fairly as I can making all attempts to evade bias.

As for the Hybrid Theory arguments, Hybrid Theory was a great album. Everyone loved Hybrid Theory, it sold extremely well. Yes, the band are evolving as they always planned to do, crossing genres in an attempt to make the best music they can without over staying their welcome in a certain genre. Yes, the fans aren’t happy. Most are very angry, in fact. However, the band making jokes about that, while pretty funny, is just stirring the pot. I think it was a dumb choice on the band’s part, but nevertheless I enjoyed it.

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#2373

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Did I do it right?

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