There is only one!!! D:<
We like to say crap a lot. I still donāt get the jingle reference.
Yeah, Iāve heard a lot of jingles and they are rarely dark like this track or āFineā. Maybe we are getting old and out of sync with the youngāuns and all their generic chart crap 
haha
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Maybe, Iām def oldā¦ Iāve said it before, the guys arenāt that much older than me. I read other peoples posts other places & when they started listening to the guys. Some were 3 yrs old when ATS came out and my jaw drops! Maybe itās just bc their parents are playing it? Idk. 
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Wow iām surprised how disliked mikeās stuff is here. How can you not connect on over again or prove me wrong or any of those great tracks???
i mean,iām almost crying when i listen to Place to start or over again,bc itās so personal and you can feel his painā¦ i donāt think at all he wants to āhave his shot getting back to mainstreamā(also: back? Do you mean bc of OML? Or when did you see LP mainstream?) Iām just glad we here something from him(i like the new stuff as well) and that he keeps making music! Imagine he would dissapear from the music world and this connection to lp was goneā¦
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Donāt mind themā¦ They have no tasteā¦ Some people just keep stuck in the pastā¦
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Reading this thread made me wonder why all the different opinions canāt stand uncommented beside each other-
would be cool if not always somebody thinks they have the wisdom and judge the opposite optinionsā¦ there is no wrong or right 
since itās a question of taste itās only logical that some like it more than othersā¦
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Amen
I wonāt bite on a āsuper fanā wanting to push opinions to prove something
Considering today for me-Iāve been here three years because of my love for the band, been to mike show every chance heās been in a 200mile radius from me, splurged on my most expensive ticket because it was him- yyyyeah Iād say I like him and his music
I actually really liked OML, I liked a fair share of songs on PT because theyāve hit home at various points on life,
Not the slightest remorse saying I donāt like the past 2 tracks 
Again, kudos for your opinions just not my cup of tea orrrrā¦coffee if Iām the git American lol
Ah as for my mainstream comment-idk how it is in Europe but aside from the radio play here and there due to an anniversary etc, LP isnāt played anymore
Heavy played for a couple months (their push to get back)
Minutes to midnight on back, they were on every half hour, every hour
I spent my high school nights just laying outside listening to shadow of the day, new divide, bleed it out on occasion
They fell out of mainstream radio play afterwards at least in my area ergo my belief or view that this is a push to get back in
Fine was on Sunday night football right away lol I meanā¦
As I said, keep stewing or boiling under the surface if youād like 
or cheers for your views
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Amen 
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@framos1792 @theearlywalker
Isnāt the whole point of a forum exacly to state oneās opinion and to discuss about it. And commenting is a part of a discussion. Itās not the same as arguing. But without different views one canāt discuss. And I donāt think itās the same as judging also because everyone has the right to reply. Thereās no pushing opinions also, I think weāre all mature enough to think for our own.
by the way, discussion and stating oneās mind are some of the ground pillars of democracy. If not, there are only two possible outcomes; dictatorship or a very, very boring world.
Here in Belgium theyāre played at least once a week
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Oh, I like part two of this lecturing 
Would be fun
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Yes there is. Everybody is entitled to have an opinion and to see the otherās opinion as wrong or right.
Itās all about the point of view. In our eyes Hitler was wrong, but in the eyes of the german people at the time, he was right. Itās all about putting things in perspective. All things are relative.
And, btw, by mere stating this you are pushing your opinion onto others alsoā¦
As I said, itās all relativeā¦
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She said nothing about anyone holding off on their views-itāsā¦ahhh how to put this without certain people taking offenseā¦
itās the way certain people present their opinions per se
I wonāt say more on it but itās just some personalities have a veryā¦direct way of taking over a discussion
Which is why I said my opinions are based solely on what I see I know thereās another atmosphere that side of the pond
Ps @anna834 take an independent āUnbiasedā stance 
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And it is onto the others to react to this. Thatās the whole point!
Lol youāre missing my own point which is that some rub the wrong way With their approach
Ironically Iām usually the one in their defense 
Is there a true right/wrong then if each side sees the other side backwards(?)
There truly is no right/wrong if each side can see it differently lol
Edit: As for the stuck in the past comment from earlier, you sure you arenāt confusing who is actually stuck in the past idolizing certain people and the original albums? 
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And they have the right to do soā¦
I feel like Iām saying the same thing over and over again.
Maybe itās an American thing because itās well known that ādemocracy in Americaā is nothing like the ādemocracy in Europeāā¦ Just the fact that you guys have only 2 political parties is as far from how democracy was intented as it could beā¦
But Iāll shut up now, otherwise weāll be discussing this the whole day
Havenāt said anything and am already
Wow
I tend to just donāt like the way of discussion.
The kicking, and turning into negative if you donāt like a track.
I havenāt listened to this remix often or to the original at all to have an opinion on it.
I love Mike and I trust him.
Already biased.
And even, when some songs hit not so much mark, I would never use some criticism that are used for it. And I donāt go into it, just no fun.
Iām sure that Iām not stuck in the past, how many 52 year olds do you know that listening to all kinds of music, of all ages, also 2019ā¦ And by the way, I never idolize, I thought you would know this by nowā¦
But itās the right (keyword) of the young to question the old, just as it is the right of the old to put the young at their place 
and there goes the āAmericanā ādiscussionā
Donāt speak of āyou guysā when I have no voice
As it is, you have your preconception on the matter and, agreed, we wonāt budge lol
I wasnāt referring to you bro,
We stand together on this point which is why I brought it up
My discussion here wasnāt with you from the start
Whether you chose to pop in to defend is another matter
If youāve gone through the situation youād see neither you or I are the ones doing that
You have as wide a taste in music as I and Iām half your age
As for the age discussion, I do respect your views
But I wonāt be put in any place when itās you misunderstanding my initial points and taking them on as if they were directed at you
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