Five-minute look inside the studio writing process

If they’re gonna do no laundry then it’ll certainly have unicorn poop.

so c´mon @gatsie give us sm spoilers of unicorn poop :yum:

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EDIT: for “Welcome”, just to go off on a tangent briefly, Ryu just did a guest part which was removed during the edit process. Granted, if what he said about that situation was true, he should’ve been informed that that was happening

But, if I’m not privy to the same facts as you, whatever. :slight_smile:

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That’s not what happened unfortunately. But anyways, ghostwriting, not crediting people… it’s been done before and they can do it again. In the end, we probably won’t know about it and just see the final product.

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OMG…

I thought I saw something else.
My brain it is broken and my mind is filthy.
Please ignore this silly reply…

hey QUEEN OF THE UNICORN POOP @gatsie nice that you come along

brain, no brain, who cares lol #wearelpu lol :yum: no more no less…lol :stuck_out_tongue:

Err, if they were trying to hide the fact that Jon Green was in the studio working on material with them, don’t you think that maybe they wouldn’t PUBLICLY POST A VIDEO OF HIM IN THE STUDIO WORKING ON MATERIAL WITH THEM?

Enlighten me as to who has worked on material with LP and not been credited/why you think they won’t credit Jon Green. The Dust Brothers were credited for With You. David Zasloff was credited for Nobody’s Listening. David Campbell was credited for his string contributions on Meteora and Minutes to Midnight. Owen Pallet was credited for I’ll Be Gone. Emile Haynie was credited for Final Masquerade. Rob Cavallo was credited for Wastelands. Czeslaw “NoBraiN” Sakowski was credited for When They Come for Me.

You referring to the Ryu/Welcome thing? Ryu’s not on the final track. You don’t have to credit somebody for something that didn’t make the cut.

Do some of you guys seriously think no legitimate music artist in the world has ever had outside writers work with them? Newsflash: Bernie Taupin wrote all of Elton John’s lyrics. Elvis barely wrote any of the songs he recorded. Desmond Child wrote nearly all of Bon Jovi’s biggest hits. Jim Vallance wrote the biggest hit of Bryan Adams’ career (Summer of '69). Most of the R&B classics of the '60s and '70s weren’t written by the people who performed them.

You can be a good musician. You can be a good writer. You don’t necessarily have to be both, and even if you are capable of both, there’s no rule that says you have to BE both all the time. Great musicians go through stagnant periods when it comes to creativity. And even when they don’t, you’re figuratively just building a moat around the castle if you go through your whole career without being open to working with other people on different parts of the creative process. This no different than picking a different producer, choosing to record at a different studio, or having someone else mix the record. It’s trying something new for the sake of seeing how it turns out, because you sure as hell aren’t going to know if you don’t try.

Take it down one man

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Sorry for being a dumbass. They can do whatever they want and credit whoever they want. I do know for a fact that Mike did NOT credit Ryu for STEALING his verse so yeah, that’s a bad move. In the end it doesn’t matter what we think, just don’t go bashing on people for their opinion.

I don’t care what they do, but I don’t like the way things seem to be right now. Good or bad outcome, musician’s writimg lyrics block or whatever, it happens. I understand that and I’m up for them doing new things. I just dont like every choice they make. I believe I have the right to do so.

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You have this right for sure @evooba, and ya @Astat , your content is absolute inappropriate. Hope you get, what this means…

although you’re probably right for the most part, you don’t have to call people stupid

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If your going to argue you come off a lot better when you do not insult people, so let’s stop. If it doesn’t this thread will be closed.

Astat, as well as anyone else, let this be a warning.

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…I feel like something got lost in translation with you, because Ryu never claimed to have written anything that appeared on the final version of Welcome. He said he did a verse for it, and it didn’t end up on the final song. Ryu’s writing style is NOTHING like Mike’s.

You’re right, I suppose having that at the beginning kind of undermines the thought I put into the rest of the post. Edited.

I just…seeing someone accusing them of being deceitful/“ghostwriting” over a public video of an outside contributor who has also been acknowledged in print as a contributor to the album working on stuff in the studio…it’s hard to be tactful about something that is just flat-out, objectively THAT wrong.

I think I’m getting too old for this crap.

I like this fangirl…:v:

Yeah, that is true. But what was stated in public for everyone to read doesn’t mean it was true :wink: I have my reasons for saying this.

Also, sorry some of us are wrong, we don’t know/understand everything. Still, an opinion is an opinion so we can just agree to disagree on this one.