@The_early_walker It’s not moaning, it’s showing my disagreement with it, which I want to believe the HQ is taking into consideration (and not just mine or just about this topic, but in general) cause after all this site is about us, the fans. Bringing the old days back is just to point out that things were way better then, at least in my perspective.
@KSetier Your code should be in your dashboard. No one got their codes in the mail, it was just a newsletter.
Try as we might, I don’t think there’s any chance of returning to “the old days.”
Time to let my inner Linkin Park nerd out, and in this case, I find it best to use a lyric. “When the paper’s crumpled up, it can’t be perfect again.”
well, it is just a bit bothering with all these changes. I mean I will surely survive 
but i would still prefer the old system - especially the chat. I logged in to the vyrt anyway cause I really dont wanna miss the band chats but for the rest - I am out…
And now, since the chat with Brad is over, here are a few more points on why we should stick with TC and not move to VYRT:
I haven’t really used it so I can’t say for sure, I opened it the day we got the email and nothing was actually going on. While it does suck it’s off the main site, since it’s using unique codes to access it, it’s more secure, if that was even a problem with the old band chats, I guess.
Moderation wise, does it have more control than Tinychat, maybe (filtering messages, pausing chat)? Because this is 100% worth it if that’s the case, but like I said, I wasn’t there so I don’t know.
The old chat client pre-LPUX still exists out there. I’ve taken a look at it a few times, it’s pretty editable and has a lot of features. The demo versions seem kind of overwhelming, though. It’s called 123FlashChat, only downside is it costs money, and I’m not sure if VYRT does. http://www.123flashchat.com/f
No video for me from start until the chat is over, I dunno why. A bit disappointing -_-
@TripleXero Yeah, you could pause the chat and admins were able to pin questions at the top of it but that’s about it. It still runs wild. I didn’t know the old platform still existed, wow. Yes, money may have been the reason the switched to TC but I’m pretty sure they’re paying to use VYRT as well.
@purrfect I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with this issue. And yes, it was damn disappointing.
Even after switching on the video button below???
Thanks for sharing your feedback!
The #1 Reason why we are hosting the Band Chats on VyRT is that VyRT works on mobile and tablets. Tinychat and the older chat platforms are flash based. Flash does not work on mobile devices.
The #1 Complaint has been about chats not working on mobile. We wanted to fix that and also do MORE chats now that we can do them from anywhere with internet. Before that was not the case.
LPU Chat with band members will always be FREE. That comes with your membership.
We tried to integrate your LPU login so you wouldn’t have to create a VyRT account. That was not possible right now but we are still hoping to accomplish this. The codes issued on the dashboard are UNIQUE to you and if you share it you will be locked out of the chat.
Yes VyRT lives outside our LPU experience. Again we did not want this to be the case, but we did not have options at this time. We think of everything before making drastic moves so please know that. VyRT gives a great chat experience, please be open minded with this change. Give it time.
Wonderful Union IS ground(ctrl) same company has its been since LPU11.
Summits cost extra YES. We have been able to improve Summits and also offer T-shirts and a free gift with every Summit Pass. Can’t wait until we do the next one!
LPU Meetups cost extra YES, those funds go to Hard Rock to pay for the food. LPU does not collect from those fees.
Anytime you guys have questions or doubts you know that LPU HQ is one email away. So please reach out to us. LPUHQ@LPUNDERGROUND.COM
Thank you all for sharing your feedback. We look forward to continuing improving the benefits offered here in the LPU.
-Lorenzo / LPU HQ
I’m glad you replied and explained this. Yes, I remember telling us the chat was tablet/mobile compatible before the chat started so that was a plus for sure. When video crashed on me though, I opened it up on my tablet and it still wasn’t working. I know it’s not your issue, I’ve contacted VYRT’s support multiple times since then but I still haven’t gotten any feedback.
With time, I do hope VYRT proves to be better, so far, not a fan of it nor TC. Best chat experience for me is still the old one without the video, simply because it was moderated.
As for the Summits, they have impoved for sure but since we get to pay to attend as well, why not open them for everyone? Give priority to LPU members and just keep a few of the passes for the rest of the fans.
Thanks again for the answer!
It’s funny, because I can’t even log in to LPU on my mobile device.
I couldn’t log into LPU with my old Samsung Galaxy S2(drove me crazy!) but now that I have an S4 it logs in just fine and I have access to everything I would normally on a computer. Maybe it’s not compatible with older model phones?
Nokia Lumia 800 isn’t an old phone… but I’ve heard that on younger Nokia/Microsoft Lumia it works good.
The Samsung Galaxy 2 and the Nokia Lumia 800 were both made in 2011; both phones are about 4 years old. Vyrts technology may not be compatible with phones of that age.
I could be entirely wrong though, I know very little about these things 
I’ve heard that LPU works perfectly at phones with WP 8/8.1, but it’s not working on phones with 7.5/7.8… Lumia 800 has 7.8, so maybe it is the problem. I need to change my phone this year.
Huston, we´ve a problem! Thanx the HQ Lorenzo to be with us !!! See ya in september in berlin!
Hey xTirea-
Lpunderground.com is now mobile optimized. You should be able to log in and be on LPU from your phone or tablet. If you have any further issues please contact us at lpuhq@lpunderground.com so we better help you.
Lulu
Oh, thank you very much!
Thank you lulu, (ot.:are you also on the road with the band?in Berlin?)
we have LP App 